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Subject:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
flashular
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| I just received a Mackie ProFX12 mixer, and was wondering if it was possible to use the USB interface for recording into S1. When I fire up S1 Pro I don't see any interfaces, but I know its connected because I can play out through the USB via iTunes on the same PC. I am running on an Acer Windows7 64 bit laptop.
Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated!
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Subject:Re:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
sjudlick
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| I have the same issues...with the same mixer. Have you gotten any answers? A Guitar center salesman told me if I get S1 2Pro, it should solve my problems. I don't have the disposable income to throw away $300 to upgrade to Pro to see if it will solve my issues.
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Subject:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
mwright137
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| As long as the drivers are installed and you select the Mackie as the audio device it should work. Studio One just uses what's there. I've never tried with my ProFX 12... |
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Subject:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
mwright137
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| All versions support the same audio devices from what I can tell:
http://studioone.presonus.com/what-are-the-versions/ |
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Subject:Re:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
LHandley
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| You CAN use the ProFX12 in Studio One, but I don't know if you want to. I have a ProFX12 and used it in Studio One, and was not impressed either with the latency or the sound. I think the USB Interface capability was an afterthought on Mackie's part. Anyway, once the drivers are installed properly, the ProFX12 will show up as an option under 'Audio Devices'. If it doesn't show up, the drivers are either not installed properly or not recognized, which may mean they need updating.
You can certainly try it; you may have better luck than I did. However, if you can swing it, I'd highly recommend you just get a dedicated audio interface. I use a MOTU Audio Express and I love it. I actually have my ProFX12's main outs connected to the Line IN on the MOTU and it's a very good setup. |
Subject:Re:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
sjudlick
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| I'm looking for simplicity. There should be no reason I need to hook up myPresonus Audiobox USB I/O and then use the audio out to my mixer to get sound from my PC when I can just plug my mixer into the USB on my PC. Mackie tells me there are no drivers needed to hook up to my PC. The problem there is I can only get Traction to work. If I use S1 the ASIO driver won't play through the Pro FX. Tech support from Presonus and Mackie sucks unless you have a really high dollar account with them.
I could solve all my problems if I bough ProTools, but I can't justify the cost.
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Subject:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
mwright137
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| I tried the ProFX 12 USB interface once. Once... |
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Subject:Re:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
LHandley
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| sjudlick:
Simplicity is good! As I indicated, I didn't have a problem with connecting my ProFX12 directly, I CHOSE to connect it the way I did because that works better for me. I don't actually remember where I got the driver (It's been a while since I did that), but I think I might have used ASIO4ALL or something, since to the best of my knowledge there is no specific ProFX12 ASIO driver from Mackie.
At any rate, whatever I did just worked and it was pretty simple...install a driver, connect the USB cable and go.
The original question was, is it possible to use the ProFX12 to record into S1. It is. Is it simple? That's another question; it was for me, but since Mackie doesn't make a specific driver, I guess simplicity is a relative term in this case.
And by the way, I bought Pro Tools, and FOR ME, it wasn't worth the cost; not compared to S1. |
Subject:Re:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
mech2161
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| You do realize this thing is not an interface? The only thing you can do is recieve an audio signal into your pc. Or you can send an audio signal to the mixer. There is no processing to be done. |
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Subject:Re:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
flashular
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| Yes, I was able to get it to work. You'll need to check your system settings under audio and link the left and right channels together into a single device. The sound quality is alright, but I think the problem is the rather dodgy preamps on the board. |
Subject:Re:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
sjudlick
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| Mech,
What I want to do is play midi sequences to back up my acoustic duo. I am using Studio One by Presonus and it's associated plug ins. The audio interface in the mixer will work for me. Additionally, it is bi-directional so if I want to record back the 'show' I can use the Thru function to be able to record the midi backing and the live input as a stereo. The problem, I can't get it to work without the Presonus interface if i'm using S1. It works fine if I am using the mackie software Tracktion - but it's a horrible software. I have even tried the ASIO4All driver and it didn't help.
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Subject:Re:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
mech2161
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| The problem is that the Mackie is not an interface so S1 will not recognize it. All it does is stream music via the usb. While I've never tried it, I did contact Mackie about this a couple months ago. |
| Kevin |
Subject:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
MikeRivers
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| I've been trying to help out the OP who asked about this on the Mackie forum. It may be that he hasn't gone far enough back in the setup menus to find what he needs to find, but I haven't seen anyone here tell him how to do it.
Last thing he told me was that he only sees AudioBox USB and PreSonus ASIO when I directed him to the device setup menu.
I don't use Studio One, but I have a copy here. Nor do I have a ProFX mixer, but I know a bit about that. The ProFX has no driver, it's a Windows class compliant USB audio device and uses whatever support Windows has for it.
I figured that my Behringer UCA-200, which is about as dumb as a bag of rocks, would be a reasonable emulation of the ProFX 8. My first suggestion to him, before I tried it myself, was to try ASIO4ALL. When I tried it, Studio One could see the ASIO4ALL driver, ASIO4ALL could see the USB audio codec, but I couldn't get audio to pass either in or out.
Looking at the other device choices, I saw Windows Audio, which I guessed was a shorthand for plain vanilla WDM. I selected that, and then USB Audio Codec appeared in the device list. But it turned out that this wasn't enough.
You actually need to set the USB device as the Windows Audio default device using the Windows Control Panel. And then you need to select it and configure it by checking boxis in the input matrix to tell it that you want to use the Stereo L-R and mono L and R inputs.
Then, and only then, did it work. That's a lot of cr@p to go through to set up an interface. But I'm going through the same sort of nonsense at the moment with Pro Tools 10. It's slow going, you need to understand what has to happen, and you need to understand, or at least take a good stab at what will make that happen (making it the Windows audio device was the critical step for Studio One) in order to get it all working.
You may not think much of the Mackie ProFX as a mixer or interface (I don't either) but it's what he's got and I believe, from what I know now about how to configure an audio device that isn't self-configuring from an ASIO driver, that it's possible to get Studio One working with the ProFX. |
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Subject:Re:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
mech2161
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| I didn't have anything on hand to try it myself. The only thing I knew for sure is it wouldn't show up as a hardware device. |
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Subject:Re:Mackie ProFX12 compatibility? |
sjudlick
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| I brought my PC to Guitar center yesterday. My contact in pro sound sat down with me and we got it working. It was actually working all along but the sounds I had were so crappy I thought the sounds were coming from the PC's sound card. When we put better sounds in S1 the thing works great now.
Thanks everyone. |
